Feb
12

Social Butterflies: Kate Trgovac on women in social media

butterflys-kateThe first in a series! The premise, which you can read about here, investigates how women act towards each other in the quest to be head social butterfly.

Here’s Kate Trgovac, Vancouver social media star and co-founder/President of LintBucket Media, which sounds like a very cool place to work. Kate blogs about social media over at My Name Is Kate.

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quotationmarks Provocative topic and series of questions! Well … while I am the first person to complain about the lack of prominence of women in marketing in general and social media in particular in Canada, I’m concerned when we start saying things like “women are more suited professionally to social media b/c of ABC” because that leaves the door WIDE open for statements like “men are more suited professionally to be a doctor, be prime minister, be a brigadier general b/c of XYZ (or PMS, as the case may be)”. While, historically, women in society may have had more call to develop and use skills that are aligned with social media, in general, anyone, regardless of gender, can work on their people skills and start to turn a taciturn nature to a more social one (we only need look to Austen’s Mr. Darcy for evidence of this ;) )

Regarding the cattiness, I have not personally noticed that women are harsher to their own. I have witnessed both genders being catty to their own sex and to the opposite one. And I have experienced incredible generosity from both genders as well. We are in one of the most narcissistic and self-involved industries around. Heavens, we use our product (media) to talk about our product (media) – our professional lives as social media marketers are the very definition of “self-referential”. Combine that attitude with the money that flows around the marketing, technology and media industries, and you have a recipe for cattiness that has nothing to do with gender. Frankly, we’re ALL waving our chubbies (natural or strap-on) around to compare size and ultimately grab a piece of the pie for ourselves.

Success in social media marketing comes from being a real, genuine person, regardless of gender; and success comes to those who remember (as I try to remind myself everyday) that it’s not what we, as social media gurus/douchebags, all think of each other. It’s what our clients think of the work we do for them:  Are they happy? Are they seeing results? Is their business improving?

To answer your very specific question, I like to think that my professional life is very light on the “lady drama” (or really, ANY drama). I feel that I go out of my way to promote women in my industry – whether for speaking opportunities, passing along client opportunities, networking or simply taking time to answer a question. But that isn’t to say I don’t support the dudes. To me, it’s all about skill-set and appropriateness to the task at hand. I’m blessed to have a strong network of very talented, highly skilled and outrageously generous individuals – men and women. And has it ever happened to me? Certainly. But for the one incident I can recall, I have dozens of positive, supportive experiences. I tend to be a glass-half-full, Pollyanna-ish kind of person. I like doing great work with interesting people. I don’t really want to spend my time focusing on the drama but rather on the excitement and innovation of what we do. And the incredible privilege that we have to be able to do it.

  • Oh and Raul I sooo agree about the d-word...ladies hygiene products are NOT the worst thing a human can be/act like ;)
  • I'm so glad everyone is enjoying Kate's brilliance! I selected Kate as the first in the series because she replied first, lol — another testament to her generosity :)

    This topic gets more interesting the deeper we go into it - from Monica's interview today I'm mulling over how men feel free to offer strong opinions and humour (more personality, basically), and tying that to the Clay Shirky article Kelly Rusk pointed out on women's reticence to self-promote.

    I smell a follow up research-based article when the dust settles.
  • I remember reading about how Kate Trgovac was the bees' knees. I remember when I first started dabbling in the social media world. I remember meeting her at a panel with Darren Barefoot and Rebecca Bollwitt, and falling in love with her brilliance. The second time I heard Kate speak I had a chance to listen to her speaking about brandividuals at a CNW sponsored event. And I fell in love again with her amazingness.

    Kate is generous, sweet and very tolerant of people like me, who happen to be babbly, chatty and sometimes incoherent, hehehehe. Thank you for your friendship and for this gem. You are right, in social media, the more generous you are, the more business you get, the better you get at things, and the more of an expert you become because people keep supporting your efforts.

    I have experienced first hand the generosity of Kate, and I have also been fortunate to learn from her work. So, thanks Kate. And thanks Erica for asking good questions. And thanks Monica for an excellent find.

    Now, if we could just get rid of the word douchebag!
  • I like to wait a week before I respond. It increases my mystery as a social media douchebag.

    Erica - this is a very interesting series; I'm glad you asked the question! And included me!

    Liz - I'm so glad that you did One Degree's tweeting and am delighted by your growing success in the Peg and beyond! And perhaps there will be an opportunity to take up your vaunted role as One Degree tweeter again soon ... (shhh ...)

    Monica - I AM SO COOL! But only because of great people like you. Truly. I think we are generally cool by association. You hang out with amazing people; you learn to be amazing. I'm lucky to have amazing people in my life.

    Thanks!
  • Hear, hear! Kate, as always you are brilliant, articulate and spot-on. Damn, you cool. And I'm with Liz, you absolutely are generous. You took the time to correspond and meet with me when I was a totally newbie. Thank you.

    Erica: Great job - you chose a very provocative topic. And excellent plan starting with Kate. As you can see, I think she's fantastic (and coming from a fellow social media douchebag, that means. Oh, right. ;)
  • Hey Erica - fabulous start to your series. Kate is amazing and I can personally vouch for her open support of women in the social media world. She ran the brilliant One Degree site for Canadian digital marketers and let me volunteer tweet for them until it closed late last year.

    Kate makes one very significant point - that success in social media marketing comes from being a real, genuine person. Anyone - regardless of sex - would be wise to heed Kate's words.
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Erica Glasier writes about the way social networks and the participatory web are changing society and culture. Kinda like internet sociology. She's also quite keen on social media marketing.

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